"djmt1" (djmt1)
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"djmt1" (djmt1)
10/31/2016 at 16:28 • Filed to: None | 0
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So my desktop is 4 years old now and with 15fps on the Skyrim Special Edition, I can safely says it’s officially shit and I need a new one.
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Specs if the link doesn’t work.
Brand ADMI
Manufacturer referenceAD-4460-960-KPW0
Colour White
Maximum Display Resolution 1080p
Processor BrandIntel
Processor TypeCore i5
Processor Speed 3.20 GHz
Processor Count 4
RAM Size 8 GB
Computer Memory Type DIMM
Hard Drive Size 1 TB
Hard Disk Technology HDD 7200 rpm
Hard Drive InterfaceSerial ATA
Graphics Card DescriptionNVIDIA GeForce GTX 960
Hardware PlatformPC
Operating SystemWindows
£500 for I have absolutely no idea what level of performance but hopefully a lot better than 15fps on Skyrim. So tell me why it sucks and what I need to look out for.
Many thanks Oppo and I hope you enjoyed the Low Drag’s Arse.
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> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:35 |
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Step 1:
Don’t buy a prebuilt
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djmt1
> . .
10/31/2016 at 16:36 |
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Why?
bob and john
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:39 |
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step 1: dont buy a new PC. “
step 2: IDK what holding you back. probably just the graphics card. Just repalce the card, no need for a whole new PC
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bob and john
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:39 |
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pre builts generally suck for the price.
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djmt1
> bob and john
10/31/2016 at 16:42 |
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But by how much? I’m happy to pay a £100 premium for it to arrived fully assembled.
Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:43 |
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I need to upgrade my graphics card. I’m running a few year old GTX770, and it’s fine but is hitting it’s limit with No Man’s Sky with some of the settings turned down. And I’d like to take advantage of the killer graphics on the new Skyrim.
However, from what I’ve heard (if you’re trying to get a nice PC on somewhat of a budget) look for a custom build that’s a year or two old and someone is trying to sell. As long as it’s in good shape it’ll perform solid, and with the rate that technology improved they depreciate pretty rapidly. Find a deal from one of those uber nerds who builds a new PC every year or two and sells the old one for cheap.
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bob and john
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:44 |
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by alot. and here is the thing: for gaming, you want to focus on the graphics card, NOT the processor and the storage. but most ppl buy based off processor, so its hard to find a decent pre-built that has a card that can hold its own without spending a lot more then you want.
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> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:44 |
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What specs the do you currently have?
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bob and john
> Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
10/31/2016 at 16:45 |
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I should start doing that. my SFF case might be near its limits, though i DO want to try stuffing a GTX 1080 in it.
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djmt1
> bob and john
10/31/2016 at 16:46 |
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Probably everything. I know for sure that the cooling, power supply and graphics card are inadequate and at some point it I’m better off starting from scratch.
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djmt1
> Panther Brown Tdi Volvo Shooting Brake Manual Miata RWD Wagon Stole HondaBro's Accord.
10/31/2016 at 16:49 |
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With an AMD Radeon HD 6670
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bob and john
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:49 |
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post your specs, lets see what we are working with
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djmt1
> Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
10/31/2016 at 16:50 |
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Never been a fan of used electronics but in this case, enthusiast built is probably better than factory built in both performance and reliability.
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djmt1
> bob and john
10/31/2016 at 16:51 |
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With an AMD Radeon HD 6670
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Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
> bob and john
10/31/2016 at 16:51 |
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Yeah, I just want to upgrade to a 900 series. Something decent, but not too crazy as I’m not gaming a ton anymore. I’d just like to be able to crank the settings up and not worry about ever getting any lag or anything.
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Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:53 |
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I feel the same way, which is why I spent the money to build my own PC with all new components (around $1,200 for everything with an i5-4690k and GTX770... er, it might be a 780. I honestly can’t remember haha)
jkm7680
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 16:56 |
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bob and john
> Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
10/31/2016 at 17:15 |
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i’m at a 4GB 960 atm after my 670 shit the bned on me opver the summer. should have saved or waited a little more and gotten a 1060 or a 1070
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bob and john
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 17:16 |
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yea, its just your graphix card holding you back. go find a 1060 and drop that puppy in
scoob
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 17:16 |
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I have a 6570 lol. We definitely need to upgrade graphics.
Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 17:18 |
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As an alternative, buy a pre-built and budget for trashing the included Video card for your own bespoke choice. Be sure the interface isn’t proprietary, though, and the case has plenty of room for a high-end card.
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Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
> bob and john
10/31/2016 at 17:20 |
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If I were to upgrade, I’d honestly probably go for a 1060. The extra ~$100-$150 for a 1070 isn’t worth it to me, particularly since I need to re-prep my car back to a stock class for autox over winter. haha
Montalvo
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 17:43 |
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If you are going to get a new PC for gaming I would say to save up until you can get a system with a GTX 1060. It is a very good performance to dollar card. Everything else on that list would be a good standard to hit.
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djmt1
> Montalvo
10/31/2016 at 17:59 |
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After today I’m definitely thinking about upgrading to a new card instead and the 1060 seems popular. That said my PC is covered in AMD badges and I’ve heard they don’t play well with Nvidia components.
punkgoose17
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 18:30 |
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I just want to reaffirm what Peter is saying the rest of your computer is good you only need a new graphics card.
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> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 18:53 |
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your gpu is the real problem get a new gpu problems solved.
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djmt1
> Panther Brown Tdi Volvo Shooting Brake Manual Miata RWD Wagon Stole HondaBro's Accord.
10/31/2016 at 19:02 |
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Does it matter if I get a 4gb card vs a 2gb card. On average there only seems to be a £25 difference.
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djmt1
> punkgoose17
10/31/2016 at 19:03 |
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Recommendations?
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punkgoose17
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 20:47 |
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I’d buy a GTX 950, RX 480, or GTX 1060 depending on your budget and what specific prices are.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html
Graphics cards are difficult to tell which are best by the specs, so you will need to lookuo benchmark ratings. I ususally use this site:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+1050+Ti&id=3595
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djmt1
> punkgoose17
10/31/2016 at 21:04 |
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Man, going to Oppo for advice was definitely the best decision I’ve made this year. I’m currently shopping around for 1060s since they appear to be very efficient when it comes to power and would allow some future proofing. Needless to say I’m looking forward to my 1000% performance improvements.
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punkgoose17
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 21:22 |
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It is good to here that we were helpful. :-)
Axial
> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 21:57 |
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AMD CPUs play perfectly fine with Nvidia GPUs.
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djmt1
> Axial
10/31/2016 at 22:27 |
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Good. I’m looking at 1060s now but I’m not sure if I have the capacity to power it. My PSU has more than enough watts but the only pin connector left is a 4 pin which already has fans running off it. Any advice?
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> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 22:48 |
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get the 4gb one, games now take up more than 2gbs of memory.
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djmt1
> Panther Brown Tdi Volvo Shooting Brake Manual Miata RWD Wagon Stole HondaBro's Accord.
10/31/2016 at 22:52 |
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Cool. Now onto the question of power.
That’s the only pin connector available and I’m not sure where I go from there besides the whole 4 pin vs 8 pin connector.
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> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 23:23 |
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what is currently plugged into your gpu right now?
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> djmt1
10/31/2016 at 23:24 |
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it should look like this
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djmt1
> Panther Brown Tdi Volvo Shooting Brake Manual Miata RWD Wagon Stole HondaBro's Accord.
10/31/2016 at 23:29 |
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Nothing it gets its power from the Motherboard from what I can gather. I’m wondering if I can get a 4 to 8 adapter and plug it the spare 4 pin hanging in the middle of the picture. However that 4 pin is actually a splitter that is also powering a couple of fans. All in all this seems rather dodgy but I rather not go through the trouble of replacing the PSU.
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Axial
> djmt1
11/01/2016 at 00:18 |
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Hmmm, I don’t know how much juice the 4-pin molex provides and I don’t remember what color is what rail, but they do sell molex to 6- and 8-pin adapters. Perhaps that could work for your needs?
bhtooefr
> djmt1
11/01/2016 at 08:25 |
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The big downsides to prebuilts are, as others have mentioned, price and the emphasis on CPU, when that matters less nowadays.
That emphasis on CPU often means that the power supplies aren’t even set up to run a good GPU (minimal or even no PCIe power connectors), unless you spend a ton of money. And, plenty of prebuilts have proprietary components that can’t easily be upgraded.
The upside to a prebuilt is, you’ve got one company to call for warranty, and they figure out what’s broken. DIY, you have to figure out what the problem is, and then deal with the component manufacturer. (And, if it’s an easier to replace part, and it’s a business prebuilt, they’ll often send you the replacement part overnight, then you send the faulty part back, whereas on a DIY build, you send the faulty part back first, then wait, then they send you the replacement.) Disclaimer, I work for a major PC manufacturer, though.
That said, I built my own gaming rig... for gaming rigs, I think DIY’s the way to go if you want new, due to the issues with price, performance, and upgradeability (especially with graphics, the part you need to upgrade the most). For just about everything that isn’t gaming, the better support models on prebuilts are the way to go nowadays, IMO - you don’t save that much building cheap generic boxes yourself.
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> djmt1
11/01/2016 at 14:08 |
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These are both low power gpus but the 1050 ti doesn’t need a 6 pin connector it gets it power through the motherboard.
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djmt1
> Panther Brown Tdi Volvo Shooting Brake Manual Miata RWD Wagon Stole HondaBro's Accord.
11/01/2016 at 14:18 |
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And with that I think the choice is made. I’ve spent today looking for adapters to no avail and I’d rather not going through the trouble of messing with my PSU.
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> djmt1
11/02/2016 at 01:28 |
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also just so you know https://www.amazon.com/4-Pin-Molex-Female-Adapter-Length/dp/B007NMSUUA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478064398&sr=8-1&keywords=1+molex+to+6+pin